Mason Truths There is little sense in any post yet from any mason at best it amounts to name calling or misdirection an often use tactic of avoidence. 1. It is a secret society 2. Women are exclude. 3. It has been linked to wars and conspiricies through out history 4. Their members are always in political power in many countries. 5. Their members include business in international power 6. There are no villians in the Craft 7. It is a program/way of life/ 8. Symbols are a major part of their rites 9 Masons built/designed significant buildings all over the world 10.Any sign or symbol found outside the Craft are coincidental The masons want the world to believe they have power and are yet powerless. That there hands bear no part of the evils of the world even if their members are/were involved Masons hold geomertry in high esteem they call it sacred Religions higher orders are connected to the Freemasons The membership includes the most powerfull and avaricious ever seen But they are a benign group The word "flabbergate" is coined by this writter Mason.... Look back to your opening post. You'll see that you "mispelt" (there is no such word) the word (along with many others). There is a good reason for my pointing this out. If you can't even be bothered to take the time to make your posts coherent, why should anyone be bothered to reply to you? As for the self-imposed box? Dude, get real. You have posted nothing but half twisted facts, innuendo and falsity. If you expect credibility you'll have to do a lot better than that. Lets go through your points 1 by 1 shall we? Just so you don't think you're being ignored by the nasty widdle fweemasons. 1) Already discussed on ATS 2) Already discussed on ATS 3) Innuendo and no proof, other than Freemasons have been involved in war just as non-Freemasons have. It's called "serving your country". 4) False. 5) There are Freemasons in business. There are also non-Freemasons in business. What's your point? 6) No Freemason has ever stated that their Order is totally free of men who have committed a crime. 7) False. 8) Uh. So what. Aren't symbols a major part of everyone's life? 9) Mason's built buildings. Errr.... yes, a conspiracy there (I don't think). They wouldn't have been masons if they were fishermen would they? 10) Looks like you started out to post 10 points but ran out of ideas and were just reaching for the last couple. Symbols are normally universal but they do have different meanings to different people. Again, what's your point? By the way. I didn't see anyone calling you names. Yet you seem to have no restraint when it comes to casting slurs at others. Savant Masons the masons choose to defend the Craft in a maner that is only appropriate to other masons I will not let them divert me from telling what is known about this world wide very ancient gang. How many words are mispelled - well sorry about that -funny how the minute becomes a focus, while the elephant goes un noticed. This is from Pike a much revered mason and past head of the Supreme Council... "Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead... Sounds like a plan... Pike is also credited with being the founder of the KKK How easily they shrug off all the coincidencess - which leads me to believe that masons are willing to forgo the facts in the name of the Agenda. If you are to become a mason ... you will follow Pikes logic and enlightenment - more from Pike... "true Mason labors for the benefit of those who are to come after him, and for the advancement and improvement of his racencement and improvement of his race" This statement is very odd... what is the mason race? The Albert Pike Memorial Room inside the Supreme Council 33? Temple, is located 13 blocks directly north of the White House in Washington D.C.. that old number 13 coincidence again... Albert Pike also wrote extensively on the mythical super-race of the Aryans, extolling their virtues, imagined history, and religion which he tried to show was the precursor of Freemasonry... but is it mythical? ml=quote: Originally posted by GLeamer If you are to become a mason ... you will follow Pikes logic and enlightenment - more from Pike... "true Mason labors for the benefit of those who are to come after him, and for the advancement and improvement of his racencement and improvement of his race" This statement is very odd... what is the mason race? How is that statement odd? You think he's talking about the kangaroo race? He's talking about the human race, and if you'd actually read his book instead of quoting him out of context from websites ran by paranoids, you'd see that the whole point of all his books is to demonstrate that it is the duty of Masonry and Masons to lift mankind out of ignorance, superstition, and bigotry by means of practicing what we preach. quote: Albert Pike also wrote extensively on the mythical super-race of the Aryans, extolling their virtues, imagined history, and religion which he tried to show was the precursor of Freemasonry... but is it mythical? No. Pike's writings on the Aryans were based on two things: the anthropology of his day, and the Vedas. Their history cannot be said to be imagined, any more than the history of Moses and the Israelites can be said to be imagined. The Hebrew holy books speak of the ancient Israelites, and the Hindu holy books speak of the ancient Aryans. Contrary to your claims, Pike never said the Aryans were a "super race". What he did say was that he believed they practiced the first monotheistic religion, and that he also believed they were first philosophers. He reached this conclusion by studying the Rig Veda, Zend Avesta, and comparing ancient Aryan philosophical symbolism to that later used by Pythagoras and the Greeks.